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Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 22:49:00 -
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Petition to Remove T2BPO sign in thread for support.
Yes another T2 BPO Removal Thread so many of these over the years from so many players. It's as if something might be wrong and in need of correction in Eve.
T2 BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and given to selected CCP pets a massive advantage over inventors or a massive ISK dump to those who sold them, this was wrong and is in need of correction. T2 BPO's should be reinbursed to owning players in the form of Research points spent on the lottery.
So lets start off with some voices from CCP pet players who know their crappy allinces and corps will crumble without being propped up by CCP gifted ISK, God forbid that they fight other corps on even terms with out massive CCP assistance. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 22:58:00 -
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Nub Sauce wrote:I agree that it is broken compared to invention. A good solution? I could go either way. Either invention becomes more on par with the BPOs by some method or just remove the BPOs and reimburse the owners with a fair amount of isk.
A fair amount of ISK would be zero isk as that is what they were introduced as. You did not have to spend any ISK to obtain one so this would be a fair amount of ISK. As to people who bought them yes they should be reinbursed that ISK but it should be obtained by removing said ISK from the seller.
Problem solved. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:15:00 -
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lol fourm troll wrote:Devan Reale wrote:Jesus Christ, why can't you people just let it go?
You don't like BPOs? Man up and buy some PLEX, convert to ISK, pay for BPOs, and Trash them. Problem solved.
But no, you have to DEMAND that people play the game YOUR way. Get the f*ck over it. Yeah what she said!!!!!!!!!
Why should I accept that other players are getting massive advantages from CCP? In any competitive activity people would complain. There in lies CCP's problem they have dreams of EVE developing into something more than it currently is. It however will not be anything more than a pissy computer game untill they stop interfering by gifting select people advantages and level the playing field that they have so slanted in a select fews favour.
The select few who moaned their ass off about pay to win because ''OMG that's unfair, some pubie can buy his way to the top instead of sucking CCP Dix like I did for my lottery BPO or asset BPO that places me firmly at the top with zero effort from myself.''
Yet again if you bought the BPO disregard, you should be given your ISK back. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:25:00 -
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Gatan Hahran wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Why should I accept that other players are getting massive advantages from CCP?
I dont get massive advantage from CCP. I started EVE with the same amount of ISK as you did, AFTER T2 BPO were handed out. If a player starts playing eve now he can have a T2 BPO in 1 month if he is clever, in 3 months if he is like you. I dont see the problem here.
Ehm no.... just no.... Cool can you teach me to make 100 billion Isk in 1 month in eve. Because that is how much many T2 BPO's are worth. 100 billion isk given by CCP to select players to help prop up allince warfare that is nothing but a sham and thus pointless. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:32:00 -
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OK you are all right so who do I nosh off at CCP to get my T2 BPO gift? It's unfair to just demand a T2BPO with out guzzling as much fat as all you other pets did and still do. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:39:00 -
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Gatan Hahran wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:OK you are all right so who do I nosh off at CCP to get my T2 BPO gift? It's unfair to just demand a T2BPO with out guzzling as much fat as all you other pets did and still do. to redeem your CCP pet t2 bpo gift you click Contracts->Buy&Sell->Item Category:Blueprint Original->Search->sort by price->doubleclick the T2 BPO you want->click the accept button
No that's buying one for ISK from some one who gargled all ready, I want to gargle so I don't have to spend any isk. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:52:00 -
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lol fourm troll wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Gatan Hahran wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:OK you are all right so who do I nosh off at CCP to get my T2 BPO gift? It's unfair to just demand a T2BPO with out guzzling as much fat as all you other pets did and still do. to redeem your CCP pet t2 bpo gift you click Contracts->Buy&Sell->Item Category:Blueprint Original->Search->sort by price->doubleclick the T2 BPO you want->click the accept button No that's buying one for ISK from some one who gargled all ready, I want to gargle so I don't have to spend any isk. Build time machine, goback in time to when they gave out T2 bpos, sign up for eve getT2 bpo, kick self for playing eve, you just invented a time machine.
Yet again who to nosh off is the question? Simply playing eve back then was not enought to behanded a BPO on the sly. By the way we'll all be needing time machines to play EVE when CCP failscades after Dust release so meh.
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Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:59:00 -
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Kirith Vespira wrote:
Seriously, dude, you don't have a friggin' clue what you're talking about. You should really stop posting now.
Your comment lacks substance enlighten me on the clue that I should be talking about. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 00:07:00 -
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lol fourm troll wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Kirith Vespira wrote:
Seriously, dude, you don't have a friggin' clue what you're talking about. You should really stop posting now.
Your comment lacks substance enlighten me on the clue that I should be talking about. Try this rant again when you are over a year old.
You've being playing to much eve, take a break. Knowledge in Real Life is not obtained overtime at a set given rate like skill points. It takes about 20 mins of research by new players to realise that Tech II BPO should be removed from game and that CCP was and still is propping up it's favoured corps. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 01:07:00 -
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lol fourm troll wrote:Congestion Bomb wrote:EvE is suposed to be a game about scarce resouces, a dog eat dog world where entities fight over the few scraps left in this world, the whole premise of the game is built around factions fighting for dominance of the few assets in this world since it was cut off from the EvE Gate.
The idea of an infinate resource in this game, one that generates such masses of ISK for absolutly no risk or effort stands against this games very core. Its just plain broken and needs to be fixed.
TLDR; Remove T2 BPO and force people to compeate with the rest of EvE like every other aspect of the game. What is scarcer than T2 BPOs?
The effort that was required to originally obtain it. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 11:37:00 -
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As stated it is the same old CCP pets on alt accounts who use invalid argument or just personall attacks to protect the one thing in EVE that puts them where they are. These are players who've lived off CCP hand outs in the form of gifted T2 BPO's their entire game life.
I will do my up most to keep this thread at the top of the board so that New players are quickly made aware of the existance of T2BPO and how they were given out by CCP to pet players and corps so that they could undercut new players and feel that they were some how better at industry. The BPO that allows the basic printing of ISK with zero thought or effort that allows you to miss an entire tedious step of gameplay.
Yet again if you bought the T2BPO disregard you should be compensate in full by ISK removed from the seller. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 11:52:00 -
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Yes you are right CCP don't care about anything that would make the game better they are just intrested in monthly subscriptions. That is why it is important to keep this in the lime light as removing T2 BPO would increasce subscriptions as more people make manufacturing alts.
Far more people in EVE don't have a gifted T2 BPO so removing them makes sense as people will take up the slack with invention alts. If these pets want to rage quit let them they have been ruining eve for long enougth, we can also laught at their fail corps as they drop dead from lack off CCP hands outs, these corps which are basicaly dossers who live on welfare or simply have members of CCP devs amongst them.
Yet again if you bought your T2BPO I totally agree that you should be reinbursed ISK in full from the sellers char. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 12:01:00 -
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Zifrian wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:As stated it is the same old CCP pets on alt accounts who use invalid argument or just personall attacks to protect the one thing in EVE that puts them where they are. These are players who've lived off CCP hand outs in the form of gifted T2 BPO's their entire game life.
I will do my up most to keep this thread at the top of the board so that New players are quickly made aware of the existance of T2BPO and how they were given out by CCP to pet players and corps so that they could undercut new players and feel that they were some how better at industry. The BPO that allows the basic printing of ISK with zero thought or effort that allows you to miss an entire tedious step of gameplay.
Yet again if you bought the T2BPO disregard you should be compensate in full by ISK removed from the seller. Wow, you really need to let it go. So I'm a CCP pet? I don't own a T2 BPO. Never have and never will. I've also made billions from invention. Hell I could have bought several T2 BPO's if I wanted. But instead of whining about them as some unfair advantage, I did the math and found out that *gasp* they aren't worth it! Let it go man.
Then disregard and no I will not let it go because it is completely unfair. CCP advertises eve as a sand box where players compete in a player own and run universe. This is simply un true, CCP interferes and gives hand outs to a chosen few to keep them at the top when ever possible. New players should be aware of this fact before subscribing to this game. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:20:00 -
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Shadowsword wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Kirith Vespira wrote:
Seriously, dude, you don't have a friggin' clue what you're talking about. You should really stop posting now.
Your comment lacks substance enlighten me on the clue that I should be talking about. First clue: Not all T2 bpos are worth 100B. Second clue: Most original T2 BPO holders worked their butts off to get them. Yes, they were randomly distributed. But each research point was like a lottery ticket, and you didn't get those RP by shaking a tree. Try to get 30 Lv5 R&D agents on two accounts, across multiple factions, whose standings you grinded for 4 months, to get a Wasp II BPO in the end (which ended resold to my corp for 750M), and come back tell me how I "unfairly got a massive 100B isk support from CCP". Third clue: Without having any T2 BPO atm, I can easily gain more than double the isks than a holder of even the best T2 bpo over the same time period. It just require a bit more sweat. Hint: a T2 BPO can't use more than one factory line.
Some BPO's were handed out fairly. What you fail to mention was that some players were privy to how many tickets were in each lottery and how many BPO's were on offer in each lotto. This gave them a massive advantage in obtaining said BPO. You fail to mention that other players recived items as drops from Rats that were handed to them in Allince space. You also say nothing about the BPO's that were just directly handed to players as assets and you also fail to mention that members of CCP were handing BPO out to friends accounts too, |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:30:00 -
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Yes T2 BPO's can be ganked while in ships. One of the major porblems with T2 BPO's is that they can not be stolen by corp members. This is wrong if you trust a player to use this item it should be able to be stolen. How the hell do CCP explain this. ''Here have free access to this item so you can make stuff, hey don't go near that item or steal it''. It makes zero sense a good nerf for T2 BPO would have been to make them unlockable. Although we should not comprimise and still push for a complete removal of said items. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.07 20:15:00 -
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This thread is never leaving front page, Well while I have an active account. New players beware T2BPO and CCP pets are still ruining this game for new players with there super duper ISK gifts and special items. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.07 23:24:00 -
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Devan Reale wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:This thread is never leaving front page, Well while I have an active account. New players beware T2BPO and CCP pets are still ruining this game for new players with there super duper ISK gifts and special items. I'm sure new players will hopefully understand the value of working for something rather than having is given to them, which is what you and others in this thread are advocating. Hard work means nothing to you and "EvA", so you insist that CCP penalize those that put in years--- YEARS--- of hard work in favor of give-aways. There's something you people just don't get: 1) If you don't want T2 BPOs in the game, buy them and then trash them. But you're not willing to put the money into doing that, unlike those of us that have T2 BPOs. 2) You don't understand the economics behind T2 BPO usage: it's been stated over and over in this thread, and you still goose-step on the removal bandwagon without giving a rational explanation of what is wrong having them in game. CCPs own numbers show that BPO production is a MINOR part of the market, overall, but you still seem to have the misguided notion that everything is out there because of T2 BPO production. Grow up. For the new industrialists, I offer you the opposite side the the argument: work hard to get to a place of success, and reap the rewards. None of the black helicopter, "CCP pets" boolshite exists here, unlike what the advocates consistently fall back on. There's one truth here about the remove-T2-BPO side of this argument (and someone mentioned it earlier): Envy. [ /thread]
T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.08 00:47:00 -
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Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.04.08 07:45:00 -
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Tachidii wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy. lol do you think owners of T2 Bpos don't do inventions? Dude go play WoW, there you get lots of shinies for free. You will fit right in with all the QQ'ers there.
I insist that all those defending T2BPO go play wow clearly they like to be gifted items that allow a massive advantage over regular players. Item's that can be locked away in stations pumping items/isk out at zero effort 24/7. While their oppenents ahve to put a lot of effort into invention to create their items. |
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